Hoyer Gitarre - with half circle logo

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Some more confussion, eh? Arnold's birdge, volute, different string spacer, no hole to show the neck's metal reinforcement, Arnold's holes... These guitars will drive us crazy!

[lacquercracks]

they are imo definately closely related if they are not genuine arnolds. More of them have had arnolds bridge. I dont think thats a coincidence

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This is why I always said I consider them Arnold's or made by any relative until anyone firmly confirms any other origin.

[lacquercracks]

Yes, me too , but as you said: its going to haunt us for the rest of our days if we dont find out for sure

[archie]

btw archie ,- snap has posted some pics of the tonebars in his half circle hoyer solist, do they look like yours ?
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can't find them, where are they?

[lacquercracks]

yes they were not easy to find, but here they are :

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32&start=20

and more on page 5 and 6 in the same thread too. Btw That thread shows that we have learnt quite a lot since then....and its not that long ago !

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We are doing our homework!

[archie]

got them, thanx!

i'd say... very similar, about 2 cm high, about 1 cm thick, sanded.
the top has cleats at center seam and at the narrow point of the catseye-holes. these have a w-b-w binding from the underview, but the first w stripe is overpainted to the regular view (as you can see in the picture of the logo i previously posted).

...but don't expect a cross section from me

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Why not? A good hacksaw will do miracles paired with a good camera. Don't forget to use the macro lens!

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One more Arnold Hoyer labeled Model 19 Esquire contributing to the Half circle Hoyer dilemma.

A volute in the neck, the headstock shape of the half circled solists, and perhaps even different body shape not as circular lower bout as the regular Esquires.